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In cold, precise detail, Limpopo-born Lovemore Ndou, who owns a professional fight ledger of 48-11-2 and has been competing for almost 17 seasons in the fight game, successfully defended his IBO world welterweight title at Emperors Palace last night when he was adjudged to have fashioned a “split” decision 12-round victory over eleven-year younger Bongani “Cyclone” Mwelase of Meadowlands, Soweto.
The veteran Australian-based champion won by 115-113 and 117-112 on two cards and lost 113-115 on the third.
By his first setback as a professional (14-1-0), the impetuous Mwelase, who happens to be a brutal-hitting southpaw, learnt quite a bit about infighting and the lingering lessons it can teach; like getting caught with punches from a 173 cm antagonist who looks more like a miniature than the 183 cm truculent opponent he was facing! For my money the champion used his physical equipment exceedingly well, despite being at a great weight and height disadvantage.
That the 39-year-old Ndou fully deserves his victory, is a point of debate but one which a fair sprinkling of experts may yet strongly dispute..
Yet after witnessing Saturday’s arduous punch-up, there is a consensus of opinion that the winner; Mr Ndou, may have solidly earned his status as IBO world titleholder simply by means of a superior display of counter-punching, a snake-like left jab that often pierced Mwelase’s ramparts and brilliant work ethic which saw him dominate at least seven rounds of the fight. Yes, on my card, the man from Limpopo was fully worth his win! Afterwards Promoter Rodney Berman said, “This was our tester to the biggest show we’re ever going to promote at Emperors Palace, and yet we drew an almost full-house which shows the publics appreciation for the efforts in this regard”.
In undercard action, South African Gideon Buthelezi, who wears the IBO world strawweight title strap, posted a near shut out victory over Philippines Julius Alcos, in a bout that the Filipino stood no chance of winning because he failed to make the necessary weight for the fight. The judges handed in scores of 98-92, 99-90 and 97-91 after the contest was declared a 10-round no-contest.
WBA All Africa and IBO Africa lightweight champion Jason Bedeman took his record to 13-0-2 when he beat Ghanaian Sam Amoaka on points over 10-rounds. A terrific puncher, Bedeman looks to have tied up one of the most sought action events of the year when he takes on former IBO world lightweight champion Ji-Hoon Kim in a projected ‘slugfest’ that won’t be for the less than stout hearted. This mind boggling bout could be set for November at Emperors Palace.
Flo “The Demolition Man” Simba took his winning ratio to 7-0, with 6 knockouts when he almost torn the head off luckless Ghanaian Isaac Paakwesi in 2 min, 51 seconds of the first round. The winning ticket was a baseball-like left hook which dropped the Ghanaian flat. “For once this country has an African heavyweight worth his weight in gold” said Promoter Berman.
* In the curtain-raiser, heavyweight Johnny “The Hurricane” Muller (7-0-2, with 5 knockouts) appeared somewhat unlucky when he boxed a slated-round draw with Elvis Moyo, who despite losing three of his four bouts has now gone the
September 20, 2010 at 11:42 am, Boxing Fan said:
Please let us have Budler on the November Bill
he and Tommy are the boxer that make it worth watching.
September 20, 2010 at 11:47 am, Boxing lover said:
I simply have to agree with you.
I met him Saturday at the boxing. He was taking pictures with the ring girls. What a wonderful guy. I Also want to see Budler.
September 20, 2010 at 12:18 pm, Boxing Fan said:
Come on who would you like to see boxing in November.
Please tell us.
September 20, 2010 at 12:21 pm, Duncan said:
What an awsome night of boxing,Put Elvis Moyo with the right trainer and he will become a champion,he was toying with Muller I really thought after reading all the comments in previous post that he will be knocked out in my opinion he played with Muller the prospect but that is just my point of view.But goodluck to both of them.
September 20, 2010 at 12:22 pm, Boxing lover said:
Budler, Tommy, Jared, Jason, Stigling.
That would make it special.
September 20, 2010 at 12:23 pm, Duncan said:
Absolutely boxing fan.Budler should be on that bill and fight Buthelezi.Hekkie and Thomas is crowed pullers of note.
September 20, 2010 at 12:33 pm, Boxing Fan said:
I don’t care who he boxes as long as he is on the bill. He makes it exciting. I enjoy him.
Saturday was ok but I only enjoyed Lovemore’s fight. Roberto said that Flo and johnny must be tested. Please get them better opponents.
Jason has improved his defense is much better keep it up
September 20, 2010 at 12:39 pm, Simon said:
I watched the tournament, enjoyed it overall. I thought Jason and Flo really impressed. Also thought Lovemore did enough to win and was impressed with his bout. Johnny seemed out of sorts and I must be honest, I haven’t seen an improvement in his performances since he changed trainers. His “wild” style is perhaps the way forward in the heaveyweight ranks although it lends itself to a short career. My opinion is that he’ll be a serious force if he drops to Cruiserweight. Out boxing bigger heaveyweights seems to be posing a problem for him. However I think he’ll be head and shoulders ahead of guys in the below weight division. A fight between him and Ronnie Lategan would be a cracker.
September 20, 2010 at 12:40 pm, Tanya said:
Explosive night. Sorry Johnny, it wasn’t your night but I could see something was very wrong as this isn’t your style of boxing at all. I am looking forward to see your next fight and will be cheering for you. I saw in a previous comment someone was talking about problems with Johnny’s right hand. Any truth to this Terry?
September 20, 2010 at 12:42 pm, Van said:
I had a fantastic time. A bit disappointing in Muller’s fight but I have seen this lad in action and I’m not worried because I know how he boxes and will be a supporter no matter what. Congrats to all boxers and thank you GGP for a great night.
September 20, 2010 at 12:44 pm, Shawn said:
Great fight Flo, I still think you should have stronger opponents. What a night, we were on our feet with nearly every fight. Young Muller will come back and prove why he is regarded as a great prospect, I have faith and I will continue to be a fan.
September 20, 2010 at 12:48 pm, Britt said:
Thomas Oosyhuizen V.S Isaac “Sussie-Boy” Chilembe
Jason “Badman” Bedeman V.S Ji-Hoon Kim
Hekkie V.S Buthelezi
Anton Nel V.S Osborn
……………………………………
September 20, 2010 at 12:48 pm, dennis said:
Beautiful stuff, just what the doctor ordered for us fans. Thanks GGP, you know how to put together a good show. The night started with a bit of worry for young Johnny Muller. I don’t think Moyo is that good I just think Muller fought over careful against a not so good fighter, against his own good. Still supporting young Johnny and still think he will become one of our greatest.
September 20, 2010 at 12:51 pm, christo said:
Absolutely Simon, Johnny should be fighting Cruiser, I have said all along. Waiting for the next one and hopefully his trainer will bring back a bit of the more aggressive style. Still a star in my book.
September 20, 2010 at 12:51 pm, Britt said:
Oosthuizen
September 20, 2010 at 12:55 pm, Britt said:
Ronnie V.S Johnny…MMMM…
September 20, 2010 at 1:24 pm, Flo Simba Fan said:
SIMON/BRITT
YES PUT RONNY LATEGAN VS JOHNNY MULLER, THAT WILL BE A GREAT FIGHT
BRITT A HOPE THEY WILL HAVE THE BOXERS ON THE BILL WHAT YOU SAID
THOMAS OOSTHUIZEN VS ISAAC CHILEMBE
JASON BEDEMAN VS JI-HOON KIM
HEKKIE BUTLER VS GIDEON BUTHELEZI
ANTON NEL VS OSBORN
RONNY LATEGAN VS JOHNNY MULLER
September 20, 2010 at 1:40 pm, On the Money said:
Average night of boxing.
Muller looked quite shocking and LOST that fight.
Jason impressed me with his boxing skills against a tough-nut defensive minded Ghanaian, having said that I think that Ji Hoon will knock Jason out fairly easily. Jason isnt strong enough to keep Hoon off him nor is he mobile enough to evade and set up countering opportunities. I think GGP are making a big mistake matching Jason and Hoon now.
Flo looked as good as one can against a guy who never wanted to be there in the first place. I watched that punch over and over and it wasnt a clean connection. I think his opponent took a fall to get out.
Budler will knock Gideons ass out! If he comes with hi cute switch-hittin and slaps he will get mowed over by Hekkies all-pressure assault. Its a senseless fight really and just a payday for Gideon, Hex gains nothing from fighting him.
Ndou impressed me for an old ballie! Having said that, Mwelase is useless and anyone who can move in circles would have beaten him.
September 20, 2010 at 2:15 pm, roberto said:
Any good trainer will not change a boxer’s style. And looking at muller, it looks like harold changed his style. I will stick to what I said, harold is a hell of a nice guy with a lot of boxing knowledge but his hunger for boxing is long gone.south africa needs a world class boxing trainer.because right now we have nobody
September 20, 2010 at 2:23 pm, roberto said:
And budler will not beat buthelezi. Gideon is too slick for him
September 20, 2010 at 2:30 pm, Duncan said:
Roberto this smack talk of yours is getting very boring now.I know you have your opinions but eish my boet………..lets keep manage able.As far as you say about Budler not be able to beat Buthelezi dude you have to be kidding me Budler will stop Buthelezi.I would even go as far as to say Budler will knock him out.
September 20, 2010 at 2:47 pm, roberto said:
Smack talk? I didn’t know thats what it’s called. I thought its facts. And yes it is facts. If muller or any other boxer makes mistakes then unfortunately it falls on the trainer.Just like it is in soccer rugby and other sports. And budler vs buthelezi, you have your opinion and i have mine so whats the issue. I think gideon will be too slick or him. Should be a good fight. Should go simil way as what jones vs toney went.bull chasing matador
September 20, 2010 at 3:38 pm, On the Money said:
Roberto, surely you know the difference between a slap and a punch? Budler butchered Gideon in amateur and has far more experience. He also has the better trainer and that makes him a better fighter than Buthelezi.
Budler also has a tested chin whereas Buthelezi turns his back an runs when under fire (against Lefele). There is no way that Gideon beats Hex and as I mentioned before this fight does nothing for Hekkie but get him paid!
September 20, 2010 at 3:56 pm, roberto said:
I think both their trainers are shite. Elias bucket boy Tjhabalala and Colin never boxed Nathan. And amateurs and professionals are two completely different sports. Budler was a very good amateur but he’s not as good in the pros.He’s got very little defence
September 20, 2010 at 4:38 pm, Duncan said:
What ever Roberto,we will have to see when and if the fight happens , I recon you dont sleep then you talk like you call it SHITE to keep your self awake but goodluck with your comments.O and yes you where also probably a nobody back in your day……TYPICAL CYBER FIGHTER.
September 20, 2010 at 5:07 pm, roberto said:
I wonder if you ever boxed duncan. With a name like duncan, sounds more like you were a chess player lol.Let me explain something to you Duncan the warrior. A good boxer will always beat a good fighter. Hekkie is one hell of a nice guy and I really hope he beats buthelezi but I cant see it happening.Buthelezi is very slick.Where as budldler is also a good boxer but more of a plodder.he plods along.since he turned pro,he’s negleted his defence or maybe colin ‘roach’ nathan cant show him how to bob and weave or how to block, slip and slide
September 20, 2010 at 5:44 pm, Thabani Dube said:
Well done Victor we at Tshaka we are proud of you mate
September 20, 2010 at 5:48 pm, Duncan said:
Indeed a chess player.I think you are jealos because you were nothing back in your day and a huge failure.We all can see it in your comments you seem to have a problem with every one here incl some big names.I really feel sorry for you as you are still a nobody and would remain like that for the rest of your life poor you.You are probably gonna blame the next comment on your up bringing.
Roberto I feel your pain for being a failure and a big mouth and you probably also have no respect for yourself.
Don’t run people down becuase you couldn’t make it in the big time……and that you never reached your dreams in life.
Critism is a good thing and people should learn from it but the way you do it shows that you are a failure at life my dear friend.So keep up the good work on being a cyber fighter I see you could maybe make it to the big time here.
September 20, 2010 at 6:36 pm, roberto said:
Nice one Duncan. You’re the man. Whatever you say big guy. Thanks for the compliment But let me put it to you this way, I am not bitter about anything that has happened in my life or career whatever that was. ever. In whatever I did, I achieved far more than the boxers you have mentioned. Except for Ndou. He really did well with his life. I dont write off all boxers. I’m just not easily impressed. I have not said anything bad about mwlase, buthelezi or chelembe. I’ve said chelembe is world class but at light heavy not super middle.i’ve said i’m impressed by buthalezi but that its early days.reg mwlase,u dont win commonwealth gold if you’re a bum. there are other south african boxers that i’m impressed with.but very few.i’m not a cyber boxer.i just give people hard facts and they dont like it because it is sometimes about their family and friends.sorry if u get offended but if u gonna get upset about a simple debate then good luck but save your insults.
September 20, 2010 at 8:45 pm, "Uppercut" said:
Britt,that will be a good bill.Just one more fight Johnny muller v/s Reuben groenewald.At least Reuben been on the world seen and he K.O Ronnie Lategan .I think Johnny can beat Reuben .Thats if Reuben don’t try to out price himself.He is not worth much but that will put Johnny on the world seen as a cruiser weight.Reuben always got sum excuse after the fight but we will not worry about that.Johnny need to beat him and get his career on track.
September 20, 2010 at 8:56 pm, Simon said:
Duncan and Roberto, nobody wants to read your insults. I’ve been a regular contributer on this website but I’m beginning to lose interest because of posts like the above. You both seem to know a bit about the sport so lets keep it on topic.
September 20, 2010 at 8:58 pm, "Uppercut" said:
The two Venter brothers made a comeback.So why don’t Flo fight Danie Venter .Danie lost against Anton and Osborn.Sum people think Danie is a good heavy weight,so if Flo can beat him that will boost Flo’s career .Rudolf Venter v/s Ronnie Lategang that will be a cracker of a fight.
September 20, 2010 at 9:11 pm, Left hook said:
im reading all the comments about Gideon & Hekkie.and i can tell u Roberto knows his boxing.to those who things Hekkie can beat Buthelezi rest in peace guys.Hekkie has no tools to beat Buthelezi.does Hekkie have the skills?
September 20, 2010 at 9:15 pm, Left hook said:
and for the record Hekkie never fought King Buthelezi,the day Hekkie fight Buthelezi it will be the end of Hekkie and so call his trainer.
September 20, 2010 at 9:32 pm, roberto said:
uppercut you mention something about ronnie, rubin,and muller. I had a look at their records. ruebin knocked out a heavyweight in 3 rounds and johnny muller could only draw with him over 6 rounds.and a further look on gronewalt’s record says he knocked out lategan in 1 round.i’m not sure why you say he’s always over pricing himself? Looking on his record he’s fought some real big names and he’s done a lot better than everyone else you’re mentioning,so good luck to him if he’s over pricing himself.boxers should not settle for anything.He’s fought big names overseas so maybe he’s used to big money.someone recently said bruwer is fighting rubin.when and where is that one?
September 20, 2010 at 10:08 pm, "Uppercut" said:
If you look at the records the fight against Reuben will be a good test for johnny or what do you think.Promoters will only pay a certain amount for a boxer that does not belong to them ,especially the ones thats on the end of there career.He did fight better opponents but he made nothing off that. Bruwer v/s Groenewald I heard 30 October ,where don’t know yet
September 20, 2010 at 10:24 pm, Johnny said:
Ronnie VS Johnny yes make this fight happen ,Ronnie will take him out
September 20, 2010 at 10:37 pm, Johnny said:
Ruben is fighting bruwer on Francios Botha`s show it will be in meyerton at emrald casino,to win a world title with asma tells you something
He fought Anthony Farnell,Carl Froch,Alexander Frenkel all world champions so if you know enything about boxing you would know ,and if you look at his record you will see all his opponents were good boxers not easy fights,so he can stand toe to toe with the best of them,with his next fight everybody will see what he is all about .
September 20, 2010 at 11:28 pm, "Uppercut" said:
Disagree with Ronnie Beating Johnny,but Johnny has to fight his old fight.Ruben had some good opponents but Daniel at his best will play with Ruben for 8 rounds then stop him.The two boxers can’t stand each other,its like Tommy v/s Isaac.Both these fights are worth watching.(Daniel v/s Ruben)and (Tommy v/s Isaac)
September 21, 2010 at 6:58 am, roberto said:
Daniel will play with him? But why couldn’t daniel play with sentana? What went wrong there for daniel? He was on his way to loosing
September 21, 2010 at 7:05 am, roberto said:
daniel would play with him? But why couldn’t daniel play with a lesser fighter like sentana? He was actually on his way to losing. Do you really think he’s got a chance against rubin who has knocked out a heavyweight who in turn drew with johnny muller? Please my friend. You sound like you support that bruwer. I’m going on facts here.I dont have any favourite boxers because they belong to so and so trainers or promoters or because the’re family or friends.I simply base my case with all boxers on facts
September 21, 2010 at 7:10 am, Duncan said:
Ok Roberto I apoligise for my insults to and to all the other people who was offended and like you say it is facts,we sometimes don’t all agree but that is why this forum is here.
I for one think ruben will beat bruwer.
Jonnhy and Ronnie is gonna be a slugfest the one is gonna come in bombing which will be Ronnie and jonnhy will then fight his old style and the one might knock the other one out.We all know how Ronnie fights he is a bomber but he gets cuaght very quickly.
September 21, 2010 at 7:47 am, Stephen Castle said:
This is a open plea to Mr Berman, to save Johnny send him back to me. He has learnt nothing and in fact gone backwards. The boy that walked into my gym two years ago, who I said will be a champion is fast becoming a shadow. Before he becomes another one who could of been, send him back to me and lets make him a champion prospect again. As for the talk about Johnny fighting Ronny, we would not even be talking about it a year ago as everyone would of said it was a mismatch. Johnny as he was with me would of eaten Ronnie up and still have space for Ruben on the same night. Lets save this talent!!!
September 21, 2010 at 7:52 am, roberto said:
Stephen how is it that rubin knocked out a heavyweight in 3 rounds yet johnny could only draw with him?
September 21, 2010 at 7:56 am, Bjorn said:
I think that Bruwer/Ruben will be a great “fight”, i also heard they are fighting 30 October theres actually quite a few nice fights i heard with Daniel Bruwer, Morne Bothma, sean… Are you going Roberto??
September 21, 2010 at 8:02 am, roberto said:
Hey Bjorn. I dont know when or where the fight is but if i find out then maybe yes why not. Stephen so whats your explanation on rubin knocking out a heavy weight but johnny only getting a draw with the same heavy weight! Thats an interesting fact
September 21, 2010 at 8:04 am, roberto said:
All is good Duncan. Very few people agree with my statements but thats life. I dont mind if you or anybody disagrees with me. Its fine, i still respect you my friend
September 21, 2010 at 8:12 am, Flo Simba Fan said:
STEPHEN,YOU WANT JOHNNY TO COME BACK TO YOU FOR WHAT? YOU CAN’T EVEN TRAIN YOUR SELF,LOOK WHAT FLO DID TO YOU,DO YOU THINK YOU WILL MEET JOHNNY IN THE RING =LOL
September 21, 2010 at 8:28 am, "Uppercut" said:
Bruwer/Ruben will be a great “fight”.Roberto when you look at Bruwer you look at his last fight but when you look at Ruben you look as far back as fights in 2002.In Ruben last fight he got beaten badly that the ref had to stop to fight.After the fight he complained the ref stop the fight to early.He should have thank the ref for saving him from a K.O.That is what happen when a boxer are his own trainer – manager .He can’t think for himself anymore.
September 21, 2010 at 8:31 am, Paul said:
When is Chaz Wsserman and Morne Bothma fighting again????
September 21, 2010 at 8:36 am, "Uppercut" said:
Stephen,Johnny did look good when you train him.Every one says they got a plan for Johnny,but at this moment it is not happening .I think Johnny must look at him self and decide if he is happy with him self.Flo fan ,it does’t say you must be a good boxer to be a good trainer.Stephen you a good person lets see what Johnny does.
September 21, 2010 at 8:40 am, "Uppercut" said:
Paul as far as I know Chaz disappeared to Durban .No one nose Why!!!!.For Morne sorry heard nothing.
September 21, 2010 at 8:54 am, roberto said:
since rubin came back from america he knocked out all his opponents in south africa. He only lost his last fight. I didn’t see that one but could be that he had an off night because i saw 2 of his earlier fights. Lategan and the heavy weight that johnny muller drew with. Didn’t look like rubin had an off night there, he knocked out ronie cold in 1 round and the heavy weight cold in the 3rd. So what does that tell you? They guy’s got the power.More power than muller
September 21, 2010 at 9:07 am, lourens said:
rueben has fought some big names in his career ,to fight guys like carl froch ,means you deserve a nice payday ,he will end johnnies carreer before it even started .he is not in the same league as reuben and daniel yet.he will eventualy get there .
September 21, 2010 at 9:10 am, Duncan said:
100% on the money Roberto.Muller wont last with Rubin that will be the down fall of Jonnhy and the end of his career.Lets see a fight between Ronnie vs Jonnhy that will be a slugfest.
September 21, 2010 at 9:23 am, roberto said:
nicely put lourens. A lot of south african boxers dont know what a nice feeling it must be to receive your purse in dollars instead of rand
September 21, 2010 at 9:56 am, Britt said:
Well, Well…. I could help having a laugh really you guy’s are really doing the match making….. my word let me have a shot a the “Match making thing”
Novembers…
Blood bath bill ( My own Label)
To start off
Joey Stiglingh v.s Warren Joubert
Johnny Muller v.s Ruben Groenewald
Flo Simba v.s Ronnie Lategan
Hekkie Budler v.s Gideon Buthelezi
Jason Bedeman v.s Ji-Hoon Kim
Main Bout*****
Thomas”Tommy-Gun” Oosthuizen v.s Isaac Chilmbe
Hope my Bill looks Handsome enough for the fans.
September 21, 2010 at 10:01 am, roberto said:
Not a bad bill Britt but i have 2 questions. Do you really think jason is in the the same league as Kim? And rubin vs muller, fair enough but johnny is only starting out. He needs to earn his right to fight the big boys. Besides, bruwer and rubin fighting soon like you all mentioned
September 21, 2010 at 10:05 am, Boxing Fan said:
Roberto I still get the feeling you are an insult to our website. Calling our trainers names and our Boxers. Maybe you know a bit about boxing. But you make me sick. Duncan You were wright the first time. I Think Budler will stop Gideon. The was boxing such a bum on saterday and actually ran away when he got presure. He slaps and does not punch.
On the Money you make my day. You surely know your boxing. And you don’t insult people in the proses.
September 21, 2010 at 10:06 am, Boxing Fan said:
Roberto I still get the feeling you are an insult to our website. Calling our trainers names and our Boxers. Maybe you know a bit about boxing. But you make me sick. Duncan You were wright the first time. I Think Budler will stop Gideon. The was boxing such a bum on saterday and actually ran away when he got presure. He slaps and does not punch.
On the Money you make my day. You surely know your boxing. And you don’t insult people in the proses.
September 21, 2010 at 10:19 am, roberto said:
Boxing fan I did not call them names, i just quoted what Collin Nathan said about ellias and vise versa. And what I said about them is fact. Neither of them are any good. And why do you say i’m an insult to your web site? Are you working for golden gloves? I’m not insultshng anybody. I said many times that berman is the best in africa. I have a right to comment on fighters. If you dont like my views then thats too bad but i speak truth
September 21, 2010 at 10:20 am, Boxing lover said:
Budler is the man.
We want to see him box.
Love from all the GIRLS
September 21, 2010 at 10:22 am, Boxing lover said:
ROBERTO GUESS WHAT. WE DONT GIVE A HOOT ABOUT YOUR COMMENTS.
BUDLER AND COLIN IS LOVED BY THE GIRLS!!!
September 21, 2010 at 10:25 am, Boxing Fan said:
Hey boxing Lover I am not a Girl but love your approch.
Budler and Tommy are our best! Roberto…..
They will stand the test of time.
And hopefully you will go away!!!! SOON
September 21, 2010 at 10:33 am, Britt said:
Hey Guy’S….Girls …. please thats why we have freedom of opinion and I believe i GGP didn’t want well educated “Boxing Knowing” people like Reberto here they would never started this whole commenting thing so relax and enjoy, don’t take it all so serious i know boxing means allot to all fans but hey Roberto hase the right of an opinion whether he likes me or my comments i don’t give a dam, on the end of the day it’s not what he’ comments that puts shows on it’s what GGP say’s so take each comments up with a tick of salt and enjoy. roberto don go anywhere your more then welcome. Don’t get me wrong i like all of you’r comments it’s just lets keep the peace ‘NEVERTHELESS” someone is getting insulting.
My opinion
God bless.
All the fans and GGP.
September 21, 2010 at 10:34 am, Britt said:
Hey Guy’S….Girls …. please thats why we have freedom of opinion and I believe if GGP didn’t want well educated “Boxing Knowing” people like Reberto here they would never started this whole commenting thing so relax and enjoy, don’t take it all so serious i know boxing means allot to all fans but hey Roberto hase the right of an opinion whether he likes me or my comments i don’t give a dam, on the end of the day it’s not what he’ comments that puts shows on it’s what GGP say’s so take each comments up with a tick of salt and enjoy. roberto don go anywhere your more then welcome. Don’t get me wrong i like all of you’r comments it’s just lets keep the peace ‘NEVERTHELESS” someone is getting insulting.
My opinion
God bless.
All the fans and GGP.
September 21, 2010 at 10:50 am, Britt said:
Malcolm Klassen v.s Gamaliel Diaz
…….. MMMM….
November bill looks exciting
September 21, 2010 at 12:05 pm, Fan of the GUN said:
Funny how Hekkie can be bad mouthed like that, while he actually, puts on impressive fights, WINS them, AND draws alot of fans to the events. Now, how can a trainer be that bad, if his fighter WINS ??!???!!!
Hekkie, behind you all the way lil’ man !
September 21, 2010 at 12:17 pm, Flo Simba Fan said:
BRITT,
YOUR BILL “BLOOD BATH BILL ” I LIKE IT
FLO WILL KILL RONNIE
September 21, 2010 at 12:17 pm, roberto said:
Not quite sure what you’re talkin about fan of gun.hekkie is a good little boxer but not on the same level as the WBA, WBC and IBF champions. But with the IBO he’s reasonably safe.The IBO is not as strict as bigger organisations.You can pick and choose you opponents
September 21, 2010 at 12:27 pm, christo said:
I see a very sad thing happening here. Most people who had plenty of compliments for young Muller is now ready to crusify the young lad. Give him a break guys, he will show you what he’s made of. Lets show him our support, he’s got mine.
September 21, 2010 at 12:31 pm, Tanya said:
I’m so dead against bad mouthing any boxer or trainer. These guys will have “off” or “bad” days or fights and nobody is more disappointed in them than them self. We are boxing fans and these guys work very hard to earn our trust and support. So because the Springboks didn’t perform like the world champs they are we stop supporting them? I think not. Johnny, Hekkie and the likes, I will always be a fan.
September 21, 2010 at 12:37 pm, ben said:
Absolutely fans give the young Johnny another chance to prove he is worth watching. I will believe he has what it takes.
September 21, 2010 at 12:39 pm, Adam said:
I have to agree Christo, sad indeed. I will remain a fan of Muller and Flo even though Muller’s last performance was a bit dicy and we all know what happened to Flo against Moyo. Having said that, I am still a fan and hope to see much more of them.
September 21, 2010 at 12:42 pm, freddie said:
Guys guys of course some boxers have nights they don’t perform at their best and agreed Muller was not the usual Muller we are used to. Stephen I respect your comments and I tend to agree, Muller needs to get that “take no prisoners” attitude back and we will have a champ on our hands.
September 21, 2010 at 12:55 pm, Gary said:
I will remain a fan of Johnny and believes that he will work harder. He knows he didn’t have a good fight I could see the disappointment on his face Saturday night after the fight. In his usual humble way he said himself he had a stupid fight against someone he could have knocked out easily. Not your night Johnny but I am looking forward to see how you have improved.
September 21, 2010 at 12:57 pm, Temba said:
Not your night Johnny my boy but I know you, you will get up, dust yourself off and get on with the job. You have too much talent to let go now.
September 21, 2010 at 12:59 pm, Zain said:
Johnny boy, you know what you did wrong and you know how to correct it. Hope to see you fighting soon.
September 21, 2010 at 1:04 pm, Stephen Castle said:
Flo Fan, you embarrass yourself when you “open” your mouth. I will not be drawn in discussing the Flo fight with me. It is done and my career is on a different path. The best man won on the night. Johnny is not getting the attention he needs at this point in his career, to many “champions” in gym. Ruben is past tense and it is a wonder that he still gets approved to fight. Another Sanatana is what he is. I have nothing personal against any boxer, I am talking purely about there boxing now, not when. You are only as good as your last fight, so everytime you get in the ring you have to do it again and again. I am what Johnny needs…… and deep down he knows it. Tell Brian to call me and lets get this young lad back on track. Much love Johnny as always.
September 21, 2010 at 1:43 pm, roberto said:
Tory brave words stephen. But lets again look at the facts. Since rubin returned from america, he knocked out every single opponent. In fact he knocked out a heavy weight the same heavy weight that johnny muller could only draw with. rubin lost his last fight and now you reckon he’s finished. Why dont you come out of retirement and fight him?
September 21, 2010 at 1:56 pm, To Sharp said:
Geeeees guys, honestly Johnny drew his fight on Saturday and its the end of the world! come on now talk scense man! he will learn from this fight dont blame Johnny, dont blame Harold thats just rediculous! it was a bad day at the offoce for Johnny – get over it!
September 21, 2010 at 2:31 pm, Stephen Castle said:
Cause Roberto, havehave done my time in the ring and have nothing left to prove to yu or anybody else. I must say, I have been reading your comments to date and must say that has to be your weakest comeback. When is a boxer done when his lost lots of fights or when you can see that the lights are out. Ruben will always give his all but he is going to get hurt. Lets save these guys by not calling out stupid fights. What does anyone gain by beating a old fighter. Did Osborne gain by beating Corrie. Lets use our brains here. Johnny must fight at Cruisers end of story. Until he can be sure he has the weight to fight top guys in the heavys. All we need to do is to get Boxing South Africa to lift the Cruiser weight limit to 90kg like the rest of the world. Now that would be a cause making noise about.
September 21, 2010 at 2:40 pm, roberto said:
I just disagree with you regardig rubin. How can he come back from america and have 4 fights and win all by knockout. Sure he lost his last fight but everybody has an off night. And what about him knocking out that heavy weight but johnny could only draw. Surely doesn’t sound like he’s finished.
September 21, 2010 at 2:44 pm, Stephen Castle said:
Also Roberto, Ruben was not America but the U.K. and he hasn’t beaten anybody worth while since coming back. As to your comments about him knocking out a the same boxer Johnny could only beat on points(not draw). You weren’t there that night and cleary have no idea that Johnny was determind to go the distant and show everone that he can box and not slug and when he had Mongesi beaten, let him off a number of times. Silly of him in hindsight cause that is always dangerous in boxing but Johnny needed to prove to himself that his fitness was good enough and that he could bo and not fight. So best you know your facts before mouth off again about what you don’t know. Rather ask and wait to be informed. As to the rest of you who hide behind made up names lets put your names behind your opionions and tells us who you are.
September 21, 2010 at 2:44 pm, roberto said:
Like i said, how can a boxer be finished and washed up yet he still knocks out people?
September 21, 2010 at 2:57 pm, roberto said:
Well no wonder muller left you, he’s a very stupid man to say he’s not gonna knock somebody out, instead he wants to go the distance to prove his fitness. Thats the dumbest thing i’ve heard in a long time. Let me explain something to you son, in any fight if you get a chance to finish things then you do. You dont get paid for overtime. You test your fitness in the gym. And if you think you’ll let your opponent off the hook a few times then he’ll come back and knock you out. Anyway, anything else i’ll be glad to offer my advise.
September 21, 2010 at 3:16 pm, Britt said:
“,zzzzzzz… corny
September 21, 2010 at 3:28 pm, Johnny said:
After Bruwer I think Ruben must then fight Steven Castle t Shut his mouth also
September 21, 2010 at 4:36 pm, roberto said:
Full respect to stephen. He said that he’s finished with boxing himself. I didn’t think he was anything special as a fighter but hopefully he’ll be a good trainer. Like i said before right now, south africa is lacking world class trainers. Some are eager but dont have knowledge or experience.while others have knowledge and experience but lack hunger.We’ve got a few good boxers but they aren’t reaching their full potential due to their trainers.
September 21, 2010 at 5:15 pm, Stephen Castle said:
Roberto you clearly don’t read probably or may be I didn’t explain it clearly. Johnny choose to do what he did, against what we told him, as the likes of you people where saying he couldn’t. As far as “johnny” comments you know where to find me come shut it yourself. I clearly said that it is not personal only boxing sense and that ruben is going to get hurt if he doesn’t stop. Post informative messages or rather just get someone to read the post to you as you obviously can’t read yourself. I love boxing and will be training fighters. So if you looking to be sucessful and want to learn call me.
September 21, 2010 at 6:14 pm, roberto said:
stephen there’s no need for you to take the piss son. I can read and write.Everybody goes on about what a nice guy you are but so far i have just seen the comments of someone who thinks he is mr boxing. You sound like nick du randt, arrogant and no time for the fans,Your attitude sucks. You were no good as a boxer, and as a trainer you’ve not shown us anything impressive. So untill you have, i think its better you keep yourself humble.
September 21, 2010 at 7:25 pm, "Uppercut" said:
Ruben fought sum good guys,but in his last fight he got stop.They say you as good as your last fight, sou he look very bad and had no answer to the champion style.He knock out a heavy weight ,when 2 years ago what does that mean now.(nothing).
September 21, 2010 at 8:08 pm, "Uppercut" said:
Stephen we all know you ,don’t get involved in a argument thats worth nothing let things be.We all know you are better than that.Regarding Ruben I think he should think of maybe stop boxing before he gets punch drunk or maybe it is already to late. Britt your bill look good the only thing is that Ronnie hurt his back as I heard.I don’t know if that is true.But Ronnie will not beat Flo.He can give a punch but can’t take one.His been knocked out too many times in his career.Jason v/s Kim I don’t know.Kim to me can give and take a good punch,but Jason did prove as wrong in the passed .Tommy v/s Isaac fight of the year.If Isaac thought he looked good against bolling,There are sum serious problems for him.The same will happen to Isaac that happened to Tspepang.At this moment Tommy are the KING of super-middle weights in S.A.
September 21, 2010 at 9:24 pm, Stephen Castle said:
Roberto it is you taking the piss. And as far as not having time for the boxing fan, I am one! Your comments about my boxing are cool, your entitled. As a trainer, time will tell. Next time you out at boxing I would like to meet all of you. Uppercut, roberto, brits, etc. I enjoy the forum of been able to air our views. Keep it up.
September 21, 2010 at 9:43 pm, Simon said:
Flo Simba Fan I’m not sure why you comparing the Castle vs. Simba fight with the training of Johnny Muller at Steve’s gym. I was at the Castle vs. Simba fight and thought Stephen did better than most against Flo. I happen to rate Flo and think he’ll go places. However if we’re honest Johnny looked a lot better when fighting out of TopBox than he does now. Also Roberto you keep mentioning Ruben knocking out a heavyweight in one round and then Johnny drawing with the same guy. I think you need to look at more than one apponent in isolation. Frazier beat Ali once but got crushed by Foreman who was then beaten by Ali. So you can’t compare apponents really. Then if you watched the Ruben Ronnie fight, it was one of those that could have gone either way. Ruben almost got knocked out and then knocked out Ronnie. So a 1st round KO was no convincing because it almost went the other way.
September 21, 2010 at 9:50 pm, Britt said:
Hey top all”GGP Fans”
Roberto, Stephan, Uppercut, Fan of Gun, we should get together then argue about boxing sit around a table with some nice food and beverages for the men that like it, and we should just talk boxing from the word go, discuss match ups’ opinions, point of views…. things like that it would be fantastic meeting the old “bloggers” people we always or argue with, or agree with…I know what you mean Uppercut, my bill is hot “Blood bath”
September 21, 2010 at 9:53 pm, roberto said:
Why would I want to meet you? I dont attend shows anyway, maybe 1 every 6 months. I’ve learned enough about you today. I’m sure deep down you’re a nice guy. But I didn’t see that today. Good luck with becoming a trainer but always remain humble because there are thousands of people who did far better than you yet they’re so down to earth. Funny but I respected you when you were a boxer. I know you weren’t the best ever but something about you i liked.But now you’re running down other boxers like rubin gronewalt.Why say he’s finished when he’s lost 1 fight? And johnny muller does not yet deserve to fight him or bruwer. Who is johnny muller.Lets see what happens with bruwer vs rubin.but i cant see why bruwer or rubin should fight johnny.it will be a step down for them.even flo simba.who is he.they’re still novices and let them work their way up tren we’ll talk again.the winner between bruwer and rubin is surely looking at bigger things.why has bruwer only fought once in 2 years? Is he still promoted by mr berman?
September 21, 2010 at 10:04 pm, Simon said:
Stephen also made a good point by saying that there are perhaps too many ‘champions’ at Harold’s gym. Don’t care how good a trainer you are, to really look after more than 2 or 3 good fighters is maybe too much. It appears that Tommy and Flo get the lions share of the attention. Remember about two years ago when Colin had more than a few good fighters at his gym, then half of them moved because it’s too hard to get enough attention. A guy like Bedeman is lucky because Manny just concentrates on him.
September 21, 2010 at 10:12 pm, Simon said:
Roberto it’s rich coming from you to tell Castle that he’s been running down fighters when thats all you’ve done in the last week or so since I’ve seen your posts on here. I’ll ask you a boxing question to get back on track here. Predict the winner of these made up contests.
Johnny vs. Ronnie
Flo vs. Bull
Jason vs. Grant Fourie (2)
September 21, 2010 at 10:36 pm, "Uppercut" said:
Britt you got the right idea .We love boxing and we can argue about who’s the best and have something to eat and drink wile we do it.Steven I agree with you Ruben never was or will be a good boxer.At least if Johnny or Flo have a off night they don’t get knocked out like Ruben.I hope he has’t going to have a off night when he fight Daniel.
September 22, 2010 at 6:48 am, roberto said:
jason vs grant? You must be joking. Who in their right minds wants to see that fight. Since grant lost to jason he’s slipped back about 5 years begind jason. Jason doesn’t need to give him a re match. Nobody will watch it. Grant is a nobody and was only relying on his uncle’s name. Grant is not disciplined enough. He thinks he knows it all. Nobody can tell him. Bull vs flo? I can think of other heavy weights that will give flo a harder fight. Bull could hardly beat a very unfit basil ray. So what does that tel you about bull.should be an easy fight for flo but then again you dont know.I mean flo couldn’t knock out elvis moyo who was knocked out twice by a cruiser weight.so there’s your answer
September 22, 2010 at 7:26 am, Duncan said:
Jason vs Grant no ways like Roberto said Grant is abit behind Jason now and I think the fight he lost to Jason the first time has broken him down big time.
Flo vs Bull what a mismatch (get him a overseas opponent)
I think Ruben will be to strong for Jonnhy
Let Grant fight Joey Stigling or Warren Joubert
September 22, 2010 at 7:47 am, Paul said:
I agree with you Simon Jason does get alot of attention and so does Hekkie at the moment at collin’s gym there are just too many “champions” at harolds gym, maybe Muller must join Colin
September 22, 2010 at 7:54 am, To Sharp said:
Roberto….. Grant’s not a “nobody” no boxer is a “nobody” you are very degrading to our S.A. boxers and honestly I think you need a good slap! How do you know Grants thinks he knows it all… do you know him personally? Many fans (I for one) thinks Grant is the gentlemen of the sport!
September 22, 2010 at 7:55 am, Bazil said:
Roberto is just a coward! end of story!
September 22, 2010 at 7:57 am, Tyronne said:
I heard that Bothma is now fighting for Peet/stephan is that true?
September 22, 2010 at 8:11 am, Ashten said:
Roberto speaks truth, but I still think his a clown! not only that why has this website become of Roberto, stuff him man – I think his an attention seeker whom loves arguments! I want to see what you got to say when Isaac looses to Tommy – cause once again you’ll be wrong, Fourie is very disciplined so not sure where you get your information from – but don’t state false comments! Every DOG gets his day and yours Roberto is coming soon!
September 22, 2010 at 9:16 am, Britt said:
Or maybe Muller must join Manny? that will be suitable, JUST one question to Stephan, No offence but why should Johnny go to your gym didn’t you announce, Simon Webb as the next big thing? …. mmm…just a question?
September 22, 2010 at 10:09 am, Stephen Castle said:
Britt you are on the money I did, it is called marketing…. And the reason he should come back is that I know him and I know how to make him a winner.
September 22, 2010 at 10:27 am, Stephen Castle said:
Roberto, I find it very interesting that you have so much to say about fights, but haven’t been to see them. On what are you basing your view? Others reports, the results? You have your views but they are starting to sound a little short seeing that you haven’t really seen many fights of the guys we are talking about.
September 22, 2010 at 10:43 am, Santa said:
I agree Stephen, this Roberto dude is a joke man, a wanna be, a has been, and a know it all!
September 22, 2010 at 10:49 am, roberto said:
Well Stephen,did you know that there’s a thing called television. Not sure who invented it but it is available these days and there’s a web site where you can view every fighter’s record. I said many weeks ago that I sometimes attend rodney berman’s shows because in africa he’s second to none. Anyway Stephen the genius Castle,that could maybe be another reason why you didn’t make it as a fighter, you are too damn intelegent and well spoken. You need to relax my friend. Dont get so easily offended. I’m hundred percent behind you and your career as a trainer.Like i said we need up and coming trainers.Right now,and stone me if you want but we dont have even 4 or 5 good trainers
September 22, 2010 at 11:01 am, Simon said:
Well Roberto you didn’t answer my Johnny vs. Ronnie question. PLUS you said Bull could hardly beat Basil Ray. I happened to be ringside at that fight and Bull dismantled Basil. Not that I’m a Bull fan but he smoked Basil Ray. I didn’t ask you IF Jason and Grant should fight but rather only asked you who you think would win. Also it sounds like you have something against Grant Fourie, I personally still rate him as a better pure boxer than Jason. Manny Fernandes needs A LOT of credit for what he’s done with Jason. Was quite impressed with his last fight.
September 22, 2010 at 11:19 am, Santa said:
You go Simon, say it like it is! I think Fourie has tons of knowledge of this awesome sports I reckon he is also a good little fighter! technical as they come! I wish that Fourie will become a trainer “HE DOES KNOW IT ALL” Jason is great will always support him! look forward to his next fight! man we have some aesome boxers in S.A.!
September 22, 2010 at 11:37 am, B&M said:
To the loyal and supportive fans of our young and current boxers, the best thing we can do is to ignore this Roberto guy (the negative one) and not add to his comments!
September 22, 2010 at 12:30 pm, Zain said:
Believe me, Roberto we aren’t interested in meeting you either. I enjoy all the comments but HATE us putting boxers and trainers down. Guys its true, Stephen knows Johnny very well and maybe knows what he needs. All respect Harold, you have a young tiger on your hands but he is developing into a normal cat. This young Muller has the potential to become great but he needs to stay focussed. He has nothing to prove to anybody but to himself. I’ve seen his fights from the first to the last and just know this kid has what it takes.
September 22, 2010 at 12:32 pm, Leon said:
At last someone with sense. Take everything away from Stephen but that he is a boxing fan and lover is evident, he lives for the sport. And yes, he is a hell of a nice guy. I too know young Johnny just needs to get his head cleared and forget about all the comments about him needing to calm down and discipline himself blah blah blah. You know what is needed Johnny, I know you will be back on track.
September 22, 2010 at 12:34 pm, christo said:
I still don’t care what anybody says, I have seen this kid Muller now at his best and at his worst, he is a star talent. He needs to get back to the basics and retrieve the same hunger he started out with.
September 22, 2010 at 12:38 pm, Temba said:
Just one thing, my boy Johnny didn’t leave Stephen’s gym or his then trainer, Peet Bothma because of anything they did wrong. It was a difficult decision but he did what he thought was best for his career at the time. Whether it was the right decision remains to be seen. Johnny has the world of respect for Stephen and Peet. Both Stephen and Peet are some of the nicest guys and good trainers. Anyway, Roberto, if you knew Stephen you would know why he is so well liked as a boxer, win or loose and as a trainer so even if he is not part of GGP, we respect his views and we like the guy.
September 22, 2010 at 12:41 pm, Shawn said:
Exiting responses from all, love the heated arguments. Its actually good to see how the fans protect and support their boxers no matter how they perform. I have news for everyone, young Johnny knows what he did wrong and he is so determined to prove everyone wrong. Watch this space guys.
September 22, 2010 at 12:41 pm, roberto said:
Ok here’s you answer. Yes grant fourie is a very talented boxer he is his own worst enemy and if he fights jason now,jason will stop him inside 6 rounds. Thats what happens when you become champion.You just improve.regarding bull,i dont really care about him.who is he? I watched him against basil,both were unfit
September 22, 2010 at 12:55 pm, Eckard said:
On the money Stephen Johnny should be fighting Cruisers.
September 22, 2010 at 12:58 pm, dennis said:
I have faith in young Muller, I’ve seen his fights and sparring at BOTH gyms. Don’t dismiss this kid too soon, Stephen is right, he can be a champ. I have faith he will make the biggest comeback and shut the mouths of those who don’t believe in him.
September 22, 2010 at 12:59 pm, Jason said:
As I’ve said before, someone must have beaten the crap out of Roberto at some time…..LOL
September 22, 2010 at 1:02 pm, B&M said:
Roberto, you contradicting yourself, first you say Grant Fourie is a nobody and relies on his uncles name, now all of a sudden he is a very talented boxer! make up your mind boet! have you ever watched Grant box live? have you seen how awesomely technical he can be, have you seen how he moves his head and feet ???? one of the best ive seen! my opinion he lost the fight against Jason because of his trainer then…. Colin Nathan!
September 22, 2010 at 1:23 pm, roberto said:
let me just say again.grant fourie hi a beautiful boxer and very talented but his own worst enemy.no wonder he’s had about 4 different trainers.i think he’s very tlented but it aint just about talent that wins fights.i see everyone on here worships flo and johnny and because i dont agree that makes me enemy number 1.good luck guys.lets see how far they come
September 22, 2010 at 1:40 pm, B&M said:
I see it like this…. Grant trained first @ Harold, Harold at that time was not interested in boxing, then Fourie went to Colin (MISTAKE) cause Colin hasnt fought a day in his life! His only worried about Hekkie! Now that Grant is with his father, Louie Fourie I hope they really go places! Grant deserves to be on top, he has the loyalty and the passion for the game, and I only see this in his fighting! Ive never met him personally, but everyone always talks good about him!
September 22, 2010 at 1:46 pm, Bongs said:
You know who I think would make a good trainer….. Grant Fourie! think about it!
September 22, 2010 at 3:38 pm, Britt said:
Flo & Johnny nah Thomas Oosthuizen YES! now that kid has a bright future in-front of him…. Don’t get me wrong but from the top 5 boxers of GGP Thomas will become one of the best.
September 22, 2010 at 4:58 pm, roberto said:
If tommy can bect isaac well then i’ll say he’s going places. I’m surprised tommy accepted isaac’s challenge. I saw isaac winning the wbc international title against a good opponent and he looked good.so its gonna be a cracking fight.2 things in tommy’s favour.his hight, reach and his power.if isaac can close the gap and put constant pressure then he can win
September 22, 2010 at 6:29 pm, "Uppercut" said:
Roberto you on the money on Grant .He is a good boxer but he is his worst enemy.The way Jason is fighting I have to choose him above Grant at this moment .Jason fighting Kim now thats a other fight to talk about.I don’t think Jason can beat Kim at this moment.Tommy v/s Isaac ,One thing every one must remember Tommy prove against Jarad that he can control a fight to his liking.He can box or fight does not matter what anyone bring to the ring at the night.
September 22, 2010 at 7:53 pm, roberto said:
Nice one Uppercut. I think Grant’s name should not be mentioned in the same sentence c Jason. Jason has done really well but he must not get ahead of himself. He’s not ready for Kim yet. Another thing Stephen Castle. Its all good to kick sand in a boxer’s face when he’s down just like you’ve done with gronewalt. You said some real nasty things about him.And thats bad coming from you who is also a boxer or former boxer or trainer.Whatever you are now.Would you say those things to rubins face?
September 22, 2010 at 9:13 pm, "Uppercut" said:
Roberto,sins you not scared to give your opinion .What do you think of Flo fighting Danie Venter.To me that will be a good test for Flo,since Harold trained Danie years ago he would know how to train Flo to beat Danie.What about Johnny v/s Thabiso Mchunu
September 22, 2010 at 9:43 pm, "Uppercut" said:
Bruwer vs Gronewalt the looser career will be over,these to guys want to kill each other .The night they fight I will be there to see.Roberto if they want to test Johnny put him against Thabiso .Steven what do you think about the fight.
September 23, 2010 at 7:35 am, Flo Simba Fan said:
PEOPLE,YOU ALL FIGHT IT’S OTHER, STEPHEN YOU WERE A GREAT BOXER IN YOUR DAY’S,AND I THINK YOU WILL BE A GREAT COACH ALSO FOR AMATEURS ALSO WITH PEET BOTHMA , THERE IS WERE THE PRO’S COME FROM
September 23, 2010 at 7:53 am, Stephen Castle said:
Roberto, let me ex[palin this again. I have nothing against Ruben, he has done very well for himself in his career, reached heights that many dream about, but and its a big but, he has moved up from been a competitive middle weight into a divison that he is not strong enough for. I have seen all his fights since his return to SA, expect the one where he went to Germany. And i don’t think he is couping. Hey maybe I am wrong, but it is my opionion and i hate to see a boxer that once did well get hurt. Look what happen with Soon Botes. I think he is a great guy and have worked with him but would never allow him to box under me again. I just don’t want him to get hurt. Boxing as you all know is a very demanding sport and if you go in half prepared you are going to get hurt. Much respect to all boxers with climb through the rope and that is why I don’t want to see guys getting hurt. So its is not nasty just the truth. And Roberto that is the pot calling the kettle if you ask me. As far as Thabiso fighting Johnny, not yet and not the way he is boxing. Thabiso is a very good talent and he unfortunately not getting to keep busy. Very sad for boxing!
September 23, 2010 at 9:01 am, Fan of the GUN said:
Please watch your language Roberto …. let’s keep this clean and fun …. and supportive towards the world of boxing.
actually getting sick of all this negativity you have towards most boxers and trainers. Positive critisism is always welcome, but you are overstepping that bounderies now.
I dont know much about boxing, cause I’ve only been introduced to the sport a couple of months ago by Britt … That’s why I won’t comment much on the technical side of boxing, as I’m still learning.
As for last weekend’s bill:
Johnny under-performed, he still needs to convince me of his power, as this was only the 2nd fight I saw him fight. BUT, you could see he was disappointed with himself afterwards, and I’m pretty sure he’ll come back with a bang next time.
Jason’s fight … awesome as always. Love his Psalm 27 tattoo …. “who’m shall I fear but God”. He had a difficult fight, going the distance with a guy that can throw some dangerous punches at super quick speeds …
Flo, my man !!!!!!!!! always a pleasure to watch you fight. I don’t care if you’re fighting bums, that’s how you build up experience. Only 20 years old … still alot to learn. Behind you all the way !
Gideon Buthelezi …. awesome fight as well. would love to see him and Hekkie battling it out ….
Last but not least …. Lovemore Ndou .. lol. Just LOVED it when his experience whipped his arrogant, younger opponent…..
The November bill can’t come fast enough. Grudge match between Tommy Gun and Golden Boy is going to be fantastic indeed.
Have a blessed day guys !!!
September 23, 2010 at 9:15 am, Britt said:
why you going on about Ruben Groenewald, honestly Roberto I really thought you knew your boxing? He’s got 8 Loses to he’s record Why you going on about him so much my word. okay yes he did fight Carl froch WOW? Andre Thysse fought more creditable fighters ? ( Daniel Bruwer,Mikkel Kessler,Lucian Bute,Sakio Bika,Juergen Braehmer,Markus Beyer) and why aren’t you going about him that much he’s a veteran when it comes to ring wisdom?
September 23, 2010 at 9:33 am, DR. DRE said:
Guys, im thinking Roberto is Rubin Groenewalt, hahahaha, it seems thats the only bloody boxer he talks so highly of… yet every other single boxer his degrading…. make scense….
September 23, 2010 at 10:02 am, Britt said:
Like you said be for if you are a family or a relative of a boxer don’t come on this site….. just saying!
September 23, 2010 at 10:09 am, Stephen Castle said:
Ok now I have had about enough of your bullshit Roberto or what ever your name is… Don’t tell me what I am saying read WHAT I said. I ssia dhe has done more than most and full credit to him. But there comes a time when you have to call it a day. Ruben knock me out, please Roberto, i have never been or ever will be knocked out, and whats more you will never know. So cut out the trash talking and look at facts. Anyone in boxing who says they know it all has already lost the plot, I am ansd will continue to learn more about this great sport. Peace out. Thanks to all that supported me during my fighting time and see you ringside soon.
September 23, 2010 at 10:47 am, Duncan said:
This is becoming like days of our lives,isidingo,egoli,sevende laan,getroud met rugby.
Farksakes people get with the program facts remain facts.
Let’s get on with the comments.
Thommy to beat Chilembe
Hekkie to beat Buthelezi
Stigling to beat Grant
Jason vs Kim it is gonna be a hard one it can swing both ways.
Jonny slight edge on Ronnie but he will be victorius,he will have to knock him out.
so lets stop the he said she said bull shit.
September 23, 2010 at 10:54 am, DR. DRE said:
Stigling to beat Grant, hahaha what you smoking Duncun, go back to hotbox gym and let them keep talking smack into your ears! but other than that I think you have all the other fights on the money
September 23, 2010 at 11:20 am, DR. DRE said:
Im a huge fan of Hekkie and Fourie, hoping they both on the November bill!
September 23, 2010 at 11:23 am, Duncan said:
I agree with you on that.
Mwlase didn’t do to much I still think he was just there for a pay day and probably a good one.Ndou was far to slick for him.
Joe should fight Grant and he will beat him.
The Thommy vs Chillembe fight will be a cracker Thommy is very slick and has alot of hand speed and can move around the ring but it is hard to say for me personally I like Thommy alot he is humble and does his talking in the ring.He has enough sparring partners where he his and I recon he is gonna fit as hell.So Chilembe is going to have his hands full on the night.
September 23, 2010 at 12:42 pm, Jason said:
Stephen you have always spoken your mind and we respect that, even against some decisions GGP has made. You’ve never been insulting but to the point, again we respect that. Johnny will make a come back and good for those who believe in him.
September 23, 2010 at 12:44 pm, Tanya said:
Its not a case of worship at all Roberto, we just know talent when we see it. Flo has so much talent but a lot to learn. Johnny, the same.
September 23, 2010 at 12:46 pm, Eckard said:
Agree 100% about Tommy Britt, true champ and yes he will beat Isaac. Young Muller needs to be the young tiger again and then…beware, we won’t even be having these conversations about ever doubting him. He knows he underperformed, hell he said it himself, but knowing him, he will be even more determined than ever before.
September 23, 2010 at 5:17 pm, Britt said:
he was sick that week he had very bad flu! no excuses
September 23, 2010 at 8:15 pm, "Uppercut" said:
Isaac,beat David Kitooke on pionts and did not look good doing that .Tommy plays with David in sparing ,and his going to do the same with Isaac in the fight.
September 23, 2010 at 10:39 pm, "Uppercut" said:
Roberto ,we will talk about this fight until the night they fight.This won we will not be in the same conner ,That’s what make boxing so good.Lets talk about this one after the 6 November.It’s going to be the fight of the year.
September 23, 2010 at 11:09 pm, Britt said:
Very interesting how you can say Thomas only throws 2 & 3 combinations I watch most of he’s recent 6 fights and he throws some combinations up to 6 punches, did you miss that?
And Isaac all the credit to him, bravo for beating Bolling that’s good! But please too compare yourself with Thomas, nah “you’re tripping”
I watch most of he’s recent 6 fights and he throws some combinations up to 6 punches, did you miss that?
Yes Thomas’s hands are low but he is a counter boxer he fights of the South-Paw position?
Ever heard of it?
Very well indeed, But I think Uppercut has a point David should of won that fight against Isaac i was there Live “Graceland cousin” my word did the rob David “so bad”
Yes’ Sparing isn’t fighting but i could assure you Thomas is 10X better in sparring then fighting,
Touch wood Thomas only had great nights, and God bless him with another splendour night
I think you should change your mind Mr. Roberto check the records
Hope to yourself and Uppercut ringside on the night and hey next morning after church we could discuss the topic on the site how Thomas dropped the “golden Boy”
Enjoy your long weekend and may you come to realisation that Thomas Oosthuizen is much, much better then Isaac Chilmbe
God bless
September 23, 2010 at 11:13 pm, Britt said:
oeps!!!Very interesting how you can say Thomas only throws 2 & 3 combinations I watch most of he’s recent 6 fights and he throws some combinations up to 6 punches, did you miss that?
And Isaac all the credit to him, bravo for beating Bolling that’s good! But please to compare yourself with Thomas, nah “you’re tripping”
Yes Thomas’s hands are low but he is a counter boxer he fights of the South-Paw position?
Ever heard of it?
Very well indeed, But I think Uppercut has a point David should of won that fight against Isaac I was there Live “Graceland casino” my word did they rob David “so bad”
Yes’ Sparing isn’t fighting but I could assure you Thomas is 10X better in fighting then sparring.
Touch wood Thomas only had great nights, and God bless him with another splendour night
I think you should change your mind Mr. Roberto check the records
Hope to yourself and Uppercut ringside on the night and hey next morning after church we could discuss the topic on the site how Thomas dropped the “golden Boy”
Enjoy your long weekend and may you come to realisation that Thomas Oosthuizen is much, much better then Isaac Chilmbe
God bless
September 24, 2010 at 1:06 pm, Britt said:
Thank you very much no need to give me compliments, your so kind! listen carefully Mr.Roberto I’m not bad mouthing you and have never so relax and when you say “you’re tripping” it means you’re missing your quotes your speeching don’t make sense, when Isaac missed the pot when he said he’ll beat Thomas, I never said your tripping go back to the comments.
Now I never ever tried to teach you anything but remind you that that’s why he’s hands are low!
Sometime it sounds like you more jealous of Flo, please show me one boxer that fought Creditable fighters in he’s first 7 fights?
Please go ahead show me?
Now forgive me please but I’m not comparing Flo to any world class fighters like
Mike Tyson but
He fought Bums like Larry Sims 3-16-3
And that’s he’s 6th fight
Don Halpin he’s 3rd fight
Another bum 10-18-0
Mark Young another bum? 8-6-0 he’s 15th fight?
Lennox Lewis he fought bums in the beginning
Andrew Gerrard 11-30-5 he’s 3rd fight?
Noel Quarless 19-11-0 a bum
So please i have proved my point haven’t I?
Please I’m doing this with a humbled heart to prove you wrong!
Relax please
September 24, 2010 at 3:27 pm, Britt said:
Cant you read ? when I posted my comment I clearly stated i’m not comparing ?
September 24, 2010 at 6:25 pm, "Uppercut" said:
Well roberto you just drop down to that level by saying what you just said.Britt ,maybe we must get roberto into the ring to fight Flo,thats if he can box,but then again as roberto says Flo fights only bums,so it won’t be a problem for Flo to fight roberto just another bum.What do you think Britt
September 24, 2010 at 10:22 pm, "Uppercut" said:
Well maybe you can or can’t read ,I don’t know.Fighting me, sorry ,firstly I’m really not interested too step down to your level of living .
Secondly I do not fight “BUMS”.So roberto boy,as you always say don’t get personal and stay with the topic at hand.Sorry reading Britt commend again roberto you can’t read.
September 24, 2010 at 11:05 pm, Britt said:
Ha-Ha Are you getting angry because my comment proved you wrong? About the Bum thing?
September 24, 2010 at 11:35 pm, Keep It Real said:
Roberto please read peoples comments more than once and then if necessary ask someone to read it to you. You jump the mark to easily without reading comments properly. Roberto you also sound like a grumpy old man> I don’t think you could fight you way out of a brown paper bag, so stop mouthing off. Tommy will also never knock Isaac out.
September 24, 2010 at 11:44 pm, "Uppercut" said:
“Keep it real” good comment .I’m a Tommy fan and hope for the best for him .Its going to be one hell of a fight.Hope to see you all there.
September 25, 2010 at 8:14 am, Johnny T said:
Meet him in the street uppercut punch him on his big mouth, peoples champ were you, some clown looking for a street fight.
September 25, 2010 at 8:20 am, Johnny T said:
Will be funny if he knows who uppercut is? Would you like to know?
September 25, 2010 at 8:51 am, Stephen Castle said:
I am here!!
September 25, 2010 at 8:58 am, "Uppercut" said:
Everyone who knows me please leave the name as “Uppercut”.When we at the fights we can talk about all of this.Stephen you know me well .I will walk up to you at the next boxing event and introduce myself to you
September 25, 2010 at 10:02 am, Britt said:
If they only knew who Uppercut was!
anyway I hope I never offended anyone with any of my comments.
God bless.
September 25, 2010 at 2:31 pm, Bjorn said:
Steven is bothma fighting for you now?
September 25, 2010 at 7:03 pm, Stephen Castle said:
Which Bothma???
September 25, 2010 at 7:45 pm, Bjorn said:
Morne bothma
September 26, 2010 at 1:51 am, Left hook said:
Brett and Uppercut are Tommys funs.Roberto knows boxing.Tommy only fought bums.fighting Isaac is a real test for him.Tommy no more fighting bums.its tym for Tommy to kiss the floor on november 6
September 26, 2010 at 2:00 am, Left hook said:
To those who wants Hekkie to fight Buthelezi they dont like Hekkie.i mean lost in us against the bum and they gave a fight to Hekkie.he wont be lucky against Buthelezi.he will be destroyed by HARDCORE Buthelezi.come next year Hekkie will be called the former world champ.
September 26, 2010 at 2:21 pm, "Uppercut" said:
I’m glad Tommy is fighting Isaac,because after the 6 November when Tommy beat Isaac You guys will call Isaac also a bum or just a body.So bad Tommy is going to beat Isaac.
September 26, 2010 at 5:31 pm, "Uppercut" said:
That could be true,Isaac is a good boxer but I think he is a light heavy .He suffer yo make the weight as a super-middle and that is going to catch up with him.Tommy is a true super middle.If Isaac and a big IF, wins Tommy I have to Shut my mouth and congratulate him.Until then I’ll be a BIG MOUTH and say Tommy will be the new champion
September 26, 2010 at 7:27 pm, Stephen Castle said:
No Morne is as far as I know with Colin. He started with us and then left.
September 26, 2010 at 7:31 pm, Bjorn said:
O ok cause I heard a rumour that he is fighting 4 you now…
September 26, 2010 at 10:29 pm, Simon said:
GGP should organise a supporters tournament where everyone on this site has a crack at one another. I’d pay to see someone like Roberto hitting the canvas. I don’t know you but your comments are so arrogant that you must be the next big S.A prospect. Congratulations.
September 27, 2010 at 8:23 am, Stephen Castle said:
Big things coming from Camp Castle Soon…..watch this space…..lol
September 27, 2010 at 12:17 pm, Simon said:
First your posts were irritating, now they just funny.
September 27, 2010 at 11:08 pm, Stephen Castle said:
Gym is in fourways.. Isaac to beat tommy hands down!
September 28, 2010 at 1:18 pm, Terry Pettifer said:
Stephen I have no doubt you will cut it bif as a trainer. God bless you son.
September 28, 2010 at 1:44 pm, Britt said:
Stephen Castle I can’t belief you think Isaac will beat Thomas?
September 28, 2010 at 4:41 pm, Duncan said:
Isaac won’t be the winner.Thomas is gonna rip him apart.But we will have to wait and see on the night.Thomas is to fast for Isaac but we all know boxing the one who want’s it most will take it.
I think Thomas want’ it more than Isaac.
September 28, 2010 at 7:01 pm, "Uppercut" said:
Steven I had hope for you as a trainer until you go and say Isaac will beat Tommy.Now I am worried.What makes you think Isaac can beat Tommy.
September 28, 2010 at 8:44 pm, Left hook said:
STEVEN KNOWS BOXING.TOMMY WILL TASTE HIS FIRST LOSE.NO MORE FIGHTING BUMS.
September 28, 2010 at 9:04 pm, "Uppercut" said:
Who are all these bums you guys are talking about.Sins “left hook” you know boxers who are the bums
September 29, 2010 at 7:13 am, Stephen Castle said:
Guys I have seen both boxers fight, and as much as I like both guys, for me Isaac is just to much for Tommy. Especially as I don’t think Tommy has been pushed harder enough in his fights. I think Isaac wins the first one and Tommy the rematch.
September 29, 2010 at 9:42 am, Britt said:
Ha-Ha Stephen my dear friend there wont be no rematch okay, Tommy will beat Isaac okay and I hope your at the fight on the night, I would love to see your face, when the “tommy-gun” drops the “sissy-boy”
September 29, 2010 at 11:17 am, Stephen Castle said:
I will be there….. with bells on…